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omeprazole and lansoprazole problems
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Tom Mix
2009-07-07 21:52:02 UTC
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Tom
Vanny
2009-07-08 05:36:00 UTC
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My goodness you get up early. I read the Daily Mail online most days, but
you pipped me to the post. It is an excellent article and I have posted it
on to the Crohn's-Colitis forum.

Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

Vanny
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Tom
Tom Mix
2009-07-08 09:31:13 UTC
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I have the time advantage of living in England:-)
Tom
Post by Vanny
My goodness you get up early. I read the Daily Mail online most days, but
you pipped me to the post. It is an excellent article and I have posted it
on to the Crohn's-Colitis forum.
Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
Vanny
Post by Tom Mix
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Tom
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
2009-07-13 08:23:40 UTC
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Tom
Go back in this groups archive on Google, you'll see William A. Noyes
warned of
PPI meds lowering vitamin B-12 status. Try the search words " vitamin
B-12 and
PPI meds" and it is the first hit. He provided abstracts unlike others
in
the thread of discussion. That was 5 years ago or so.

Just say yes to no................................Trig
Tom Mix
2009-07-17 08:08:59 UTC
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Tom
Go back in this groups archive on Google, you'll see William A. Noyes
warned of
PPI meds lowering vitamin B-12 status. Try the search words " vitamin
B-12 and
PPI meds" and it is the first hit. He provided abstracts unlike others
in
the thread of discussion. That was 5 years ago or so.

Just say yes to no................................Trig

I am going to speak to my GP on the subject today.
I am glucosde intolerant but regarded as Type II diabetic. The Podiatrist I
was referred to gave me a score of 2/10 on feeling in my lower legs/feet due
to peripheral Neuropathy.
This article beieves that PPI's only reduce gastrin levels for less than
half of the day.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/450444
Tom
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
2009-07-18 04:56:55 UTC
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1197979/Heartburn-pills-wre...
Tom
Go back in this groups archive on Google, you'll see William A. Noyes
warned of
PPI meds lowering vitamin B-12 status. Try the search words " vitamin
B-12 and
PPI meds" and it is the first hit. He provided abstracts unlike others
in
the thread of discussion. That was 5 years ago or so.
Just say yes to no................................Trig
I am going to speak to my GP on the subject today.
I am glucosde intolerant but regarded as Type II diabetic. The Podiatrist I
was referred to gave me a score of 2/10 on feeling in my lower legs/feet due
to peripheral Neuropathy.
This article beieves that PPI's only reduce gastrin levels for less than
half of the day.http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/450444
Tom
I lost my cookie to medscape. But a couple things come
to mind. First the use of PPI meds raises gastrin not lowers them.
And yes there are various forms of gastrin as I recall. When I
quit the PPI meds the stomach felt warm for several days and
I don't mean burning just warm. Also some have experimented
with every other day use of PPI meds. I did myself for awhile
back in years when I was foolish enough to take the prescribed meds.
Secondly, in the case of DM there is a range of nutrients and nutrient
like substance that may or are helpful for neuropathy. And yes
of course controlling the blood sugar level is part of it. Anyway
take a look at research on r-alpha lipoic acid, biotin, myo-inositol,
vitamin E,
benfotiamine, and so on in the context of DM and neuropathy.

Do not expect the MD or the Endo to be all knowing.

Nor should one confuse them with facts
as they don't have the time.......Trig
Tom Mix
2009-07-19 11:35:58 UTC
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Post by ***@gmail.com |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1197979/Heartburn-pills-wre...
Tom
Go back in this groups archive on Google, you'll see William A. Noyes
warned of
PPI meds lowering vitamin B-12 status. Try the search words " vitamin
B-12 and
PPI meds" and it is the first hit. He provided abstracts unlike others
in
the thread of discussion. That was 5 years ago or so.
Just say yes to no................................Trig
I am going to speak to my GP on the subject today.
I am glucosde intolerant but regarded as Type II diabetic. The Podiatrist I
was referred to gave me a score of 2/10 on feeling in my lower legs/feet due
to peripheral Neuropathy.
This article beieves that PPI's only reduce gastrin levels for less than
half of the day.http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/450444
Tom
I lost my cookie to medscape. But a couple things come
to mind. First the use of PPI meds raises gastrin not lowers them.
And yes there are various forms of gastrin as I recall. When I
quit the PPI meds the stomach felt warm for several days and
I don't mean burning just warm. Also some have experimented
with every other day use of PPI meds. I did myself for awhile
back in years when I was foolish enough to take the prescribed meds.
Secondly, in the case of DM there is a range of nutrients and nutrient
like substance that may or are helpful for neuropathy. And yes
of course controlling the blood sugar level is part of it. Anyway
take a look at research on r-alpha lipoic acid, biotin, myo-inositol,
vitamin E,
benfotiamine, and so on in the context of DM and neuropathy.

Do not expect the MD or the Endo to be all knowing.

Nor should one confuse them with facts
as they don't have the time.......Trig

My GP is arranging blood tests for Vitamin B12 and Foliate (A1) levels as
well as a thyroid function test looking for other causes of neuropathy.
I did at one time take Folic Acid and B12 but did not notice any benefiits
and gave up on them.
He suggested various foods and supplements to help. The foods rich in B12
are mostly ones I eat a lot of.
I have treid taking PPI's on alternate days or relying on Gaviscon for the
odd week but have had to soon go back to Nexium.
Tom
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
2009-07-20 23:15:56 UTC
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Post by ***@gmail.com |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1197979/Heartburn-pills-wre...
Tom
Go back in this groups archive on Google, you'll see William A. Noyes
warned of
PPI meds lowering vitamin B-12 status. Try the search words " vitamin
B-12 and
PPI meds" and it is the first hit. He provided abstracts unlike others
in
the thread of discussion. That was 5 years ago or so.
Just say yes to no................................Trig
I am going to speak to my GP on the subject today.
I am glucosde intolerant but regarded as Type II diabetic. The Podiatrist I
was referred to gave me a score of 2/10 on feeling in my lower legs/feet due
to peripheral Neuropathy.
This article beieves that PPI's only reduce gastrin levels for less than
half of the day.http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/450444
Tom
I lost my cookie to medscape. But a couple things come
to mind. First the use of PPI meds raises gastrin not lowers them.
And yes there are various forms of gastrin as I recall. When I
quit the PPI meds the stomach felt warm for several days and
I don't mean burning just warm. Also some have experimented
with every other day use of PPI meds. I did myself for awhile
back in years when I was foolish enough to take the prescribed meds.
Secondly, in the case of DM there is a range of nutrients and nutrient
like substance that may or are helpful for neuropathy. And yes
of course controlling the blood sugar level is part of it. Anyway
take a look at research on r-alpha lipoic acid, biotin, myo-inositol,
vitamin E,
benfotiamine, and so on in the context of DM and neuropathy.
Do not expect the MD or the Endo to be all knowing.
Nor should one confuse them with facts
as they don't have the time.......Trig
My GP is arranging blood tests for Vitamin B12 and Foliate (A1) levels as
well as a thyroid function test looking for other causes of  neuropathy.
I did at one time take Folic Acid and B12 but did not notice any benefiits
and gave up on them.
He suggested various foods and supplements to help. The foods rich in B12
are mostly ones I eat a lot of.
I have treid taking PPI's on alternate days or relying on Gaviscon for the
odd week but have had to soon go back to Nexium.
Tom
If you lack intrinsic factor it doesn't matter whether your intake of
of dietary B-12 is high or low as it won't be taken up. It might
be easier to take a shot and see how you feel afterwards, in
my non-medical opinion. As to feeling good on folic acid or
B-12 or not, I'll suggest it often takes years or months for
the damage to start being apparent. Plus the body can
store B-12 for quit long time and the stores can last awhile.

Anyway DM can cause neuropathy as you surely know.

PPI meds reduce the availability of B-12, and folic acid and
likely some other nutrients as well.

This is not medical grade advice and is written for
your entertainment.................................Trig

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